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Old 01-09-2007, 03:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question scam or no scam

hi

has anyone ever come across these indonesian sites that sell in bulk

indowholesale.biz

jasamargastore.com

The prices seem excellent for products I wasnt even aware were available such as pal version ps3's. The amount of games that seem to be available with some consoles also seems a bit too good to be true.

And as far as payment is concerned unless you are local to indonesia they accept only wire transfers or possibly western union if US. I am UK so wire transfer only is available to me but I don't feel too confident parting with my cash.

I got their sites as sponsored links from amazon.co.uk but also not sure if amazon really cares who their sponsored links go to. If anyone could have a look and let me know if they are a gem or if they are a scam.

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Old 01-09-2007, 08:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i check over the site, both websites are less than 4 months old, what do u expect on these sites? also the website never contact information, i believe is operate personal, no legal company. there is no credit any all to do business with sites like this. high risk. also Pal PS3? as i know they allow to sell to europe after March 2007 , so you decide they are scam or not
here is are they website register info , i doubt these information whether is correct or not

Registrant:
jasamarga store
40 S. Terrace
Wichita, KS 67218
US

Domain name: JASAMARGASTORE.COM

Administrative Contact:
Parsons, Samuel jasamargastore@gmail.com
40 S. Terrace
Wichita, KS 67218
US
+1.3166848586
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Old 01-18-2007, 07:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default JASAMARGA Online Store

Hello everyone,

I have used the Jasamargastore.com website and made an order, I paid for the goods (stupidly) via wire transfer and I have not recieved the order. I now have no replies to e-mails that I have sent and no way of communicating with them.

The website is still going and is a sponsored link on Yahoo and comes up when a Google search is completed.

Can anyone help me in how I may be able to trace who set up the website, where they are and how to stop anyone else using it.

Its a scam and it has cost me a lot of money and I don't wont anyone else getting ripped off.

Many thanks,

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Old 01-18-2007, 03:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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First of all NEVER send money via a wire transfer! If they do not accept credit cards or some sort of safe alternative do not deal with them period!
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Have you done a whois search
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Hi,

I have done a whois search,

The administrative contact is:
Samual PARSONS jasamargastore@gmail.com
40 S. Terrace
Wichita, KS 67218
US
+1.3166848586

Technical contact:
Admin, DNS dnsadmin@localnet.com
325 Hampton Hill Dr.
Williamsville, NY 14221
US
+1.7166321133

Domain Servers in listed order:
NS1.INDOWEBSOLUTION.COM 66.36.250.57
NS2.INDOWEBSOLUTION.COM 66.36.228.155

I have tried to research the address od the admin contact but, surprise surprise the number in that street doesn't exist.

I've now e-mailed the technical contact for any help they might be able to give.

Anymore ideas?

Thanks,

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yes, so this guy does not really do real business, just avoid it
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thanks for informing me.
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Hello,
I got ripped of by Indonesian seller last year for £2000 when i was new to the trade, and it got me on all kinds trouble.
I traced the seller through Whois and even got him on the telephone but by time id reported it to my bank and UK embassy in Indonesia he;d cleared the bank account so I couldnt get money back.
UK embassy give me list of credible Solicitors in the region but they wanted payment upfront with no guarantee to getting my money back.
The UK Embassy was useless and my bank said all banks in Indonesia are so easy to open up accounts with fake ID that once they scam one person they just keep switching banks.
Id advise everyone not ever deal with Indonesia and Africa (Nigeria)
Ive had to put it down to experience and try rebuild my business as it got me trouble with buyers whos paid me for items.
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Thanks for letting us know about your case. yes, Indonesia is not a secured place to trade if they don't do Letter or credit. or 100% Nigeria is scammed online
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